Melian Dialogue - Thucydides - History of the Peloponnesian War
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Melos and Athens

In 416 BC, right in the middle of the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta, the Athenians got in an argument with the island of Melos, which ended in disaster. Melos was an island in the Aegean Sea, between Greece and the Persian Empire, and although it had originally been a Spartan colony, it had recently been independent and neutral, not taking sides with either Athens or Sparta in the war.

In 416 BC, the Athenian democracy voted to send a group of representatives to Melos, to demand that Melos join the Athenian side and pay tribute to Athens, and help Athens fight against Sparta. The Melians (the people of Melos) said no. They had always been peaceful, and neutral, they said, and they had only a small army and did not pose any threat to Athens (which was true). They appealed to the common decency of the Athenians to do what was right.

The Athenians answered that as far as they were concerned, might made right: "The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must." They threatened to beseige Melos and capture it, and after capturing it, to kill all the men, and sell all the women and children into slavery. The Melians make several arguments, and the Athenians counter all of them:

First, the Melians argue that they're a neutral city, and no threat to Athens. The Athenians reply that if they fail to conquer such an easy target, they themselves will look weak, and their enemies will be encouraged.

island and ocean, with many small white buildings
The island of Melos

Second, the Melians argue that if the Athenians attack Melos, other neutral states will take up arms against the Athenians. But the Athenians answer essentially that the best defense is a good offense: that striking fear into other cities is the best way to keep them in line.

The Melians say that they have to defend their city in order to keep their honor. The Athenians answer that it's not about honor, just about saving their lives.

The Melians argue that even though they are weak and outnumbered, they could still win: the gods might help them, or the Spartans might come help them. The Athenians answer that the gods help those who help themselves - the stronger side will win. They repeat that there's no shame in surrendering when your enemy is so much stronger, but the Melians again refuse to surrender.

So the Athenians attacked Melos in 415 BC, and sure enough, they soon defeated the Melians. The Spartans did not show up. And, as they had said they would, the Athenians killed every man on the island old enough to fight, and sold all of the women and children into slavery.

The democracy in Athens had voted to do this, and many of the voters were the same men as the soldiers who had done the killing. Still many Athenians felt the massacre was a terrible crime, and Euripedes' Trojan Women, performed that same year, may be a commentary on Melos - as well as a foreshadowing of what would soon happen to Athens. On the other hand, if the Athenians had won the war and the Athenian Empire had been a big success - perhaps eventually conquering the Persian Empire as Alexander did - maybe the massacre at Melos would seem more justified? It's worth considering that Alexander, whose grandfather may have been old enough to remember Melos, killed eight thousand men after he took the city of Tyre, and sold thirty thousand women and children into slavery - and yet we hardly remember that now.

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Bibliography and further reading about Thucydides.

The Peloponnesian War, by Donald Kagan (reprinted 2003). Kagan is basically a military historian, and a conservative. This is a shortened version of his four-volume book about the same war, for the popular reader.

The Landmark Thucydides: A Comprehensive Guide to the Peloponnesian War, by Thucydides, with commentary by Robert B. Strassler (1998). The original account of the war by an Athenian general turned historian.

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Karen Carr is Associate Professor Emerita, Department of History, Portland State University. She holds a doctorate in Classical Art and Archaeology from the University of Michigan. Follow her on Instagram or Twitter, or buy her book, Vandals to Visigoths.
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